Healing the City

The Book of Paul: Ishmael - A Novel by Daniel Quinn Part One

June 14, 2022 Ron Brown and Eric Cepin Season 2
Healing the City
The Book of Paul: Ishmael - A Novel by Daniel Quinn Part One
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Show Notes

Hold onto your hats folks, because the Healing the City podcast episode with host Pastor Eric Cepin and guest Ron Brown is about to take you on a wild ride into the transformative power of Daniel Quinn's novel, Ishmael. Ron Brown spills the beans on how this book helped him find truth, even though he wasn't following Jesus at the time. Can you believe it?

In this episode, Ron goes all in with a summary of Ishmael and its  allegorical approach to the early parts of the Bible. You won't want to miss his  explanations on how this book helped him recognize the wisdom in the Bible and even provided a framework for him to understand his own spiritual journey.

The conversation between Pastor Eric and Ron will make your head spin with their deep dive into the themes of the novel and how they relate to our modern world. Brace yourselves for their discussion on the concept of "Mother Culture" and how society shapes our beliefs and values.  

This podcast episode is an absolute must-listen for anyone who wants to experience a mind-bending exploration of the power of literature to inspire personal growth and spiritual transformation. You'll come away with a unique perspective on the Bible and the ways in which it can provide guidance and wisdom in our lives that will leave you in awe. Don't miss it!

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"Healing the City" is a profound and dynamic weekly podcast that dives into the complexities of creating healthier communities. Featuring the voices and perspectives of the esteemed members of the Village Church, each episode is thoughtfully crafted to address the challenges and opportunities for meaningful change in our cities.

With a holistic approach to healing, the podcast explores a wide range of topics, from soul care and spiritual direction to mental health and community involvement. It provides listeners with insightful and thought-provoking perspectives on the issues facing our cities, as well as practical steps they can take to make a difference.

Join hosts Adrienne Crawford, Eric Cepin, Ashley Cousineau, Jessica Dennes, Michael Cousineau, Mark Crawford, and Susan Cepin as they navigate the complexities of our communities with wisdom, grace, and a deep commitment to positive change. Through their engaging discussions, listeners will be inspired to become active participants in healing the city and creating a brighter, healthier future for all.


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